
As fiscal responsibility takes center stage in Washington, the Obama Administration borrows a page from the man who wrote the book. Former U.S. Comptroller General David M. Walker explains why Americans are at long last demanding financially responsible government.
BF: There seems to be something of a sea change in Washington, with fiscal responsibility finally being put on the front burner. What happened?
DW: Americans have seen that the too-big-to-fail concept is fundamentally flawed. Within the past 18 months, they've seen venerable financial, insurance, and manufacturing companies either go out of business or require a government bailout. They now know that the federal government has been following many of these same imprudent practices for years and that you can't spend more money than you make and take on increasing debt loads forever without potentially facing a crisis. So they have modified their behavior by moderating their spending and by increasing their savings rate, and they now expect the federal government to do the same so that we can avoid a super subprime crisis that would result in a much worse impact on the economy and American families than the mortgage rate and subprime crisis. We have also seen this manifested in recent public opinion polls.
BF: And some would argue the Massachusetts senatorial election.
DW: Massachusetts, in my view, was not a victory for Republicans. It was a rise of independence. It was an expression of increasing frustration with the status quo and the normal way of doing business with incumbents. Republicans had better not overestimate the messages coming from Massachusetts. And Democrats had better pay darned close attention to the messages coming from Massachusetts because the public is increasingly concerned and a small but growing percentage of them are becoming angry. We must put this to a constructive purpose to help create a better future rather than allow it to spin out of control.
BF: You talk about the need to establish a government fiscal commission in Comeback America, your latest book, and in fact the Obama Administration has clearly embraced the notion of one. Are you encouraged by some of the new directives coming from the White House?
DW: Well, yes ... the president has already announced that he will form a presidential fiscal commission. He has also announced that he's proposing to freeze a portion of discretionary spending for three years and support a modified pay-go rule. I think that these are steps in the right direction, and I believe that the fiscal commission is of critical importance. I think that he needs to announce what the purpose of the commission is, and I think he needs to do it within the next 30 days.
BF: The proposed commission's long-term goal is for the deficit to reach 3 percent of GDP. That's down from a high this year of 10.6 percent.
DW: In my view, we need to look out several decades. We need to try to stabilize debt to GDP at an appropriate level. We need to achieve a significant reduction in the tens of trillions in unfunded obligations that we have. Now, it's fine to have an interim goal, but we must look beyond the 10-year horizon and to our off-balance-sheet obligations.
BF: The president's budget philosophy is now rooted in pay-go principles, which you have also advocated. What other operating principles are required?
DW: Pay-as-you-go is one of a number of concepts that we need to embrace. The current pay-as-you-go proposal has a number of large loopholes in it that ultimately need to be addressed by the fiscal commission, but in addition to pay-go rules, we need statutory discretionary spending caps and automatic reconsideration triggers when certain mandatory spending programs and tax preferences reach a stated size of the budget or economy.
BF: You have emphasized that the fiscal commission should be a bipartisan committee -- who should be on this?
DW: We don't know what the president has in mind yet. In my opinion, it should include some members of Congress and the administration as well as a number of nongovernment members. It's critical that all members meet three criteria. Namely, they need to be capable, credible, and committed to making a number of nonpartisan and nonideological recommendations that can achieve bipartisan support.
BF: Are you a candidate for this commission?
DW: I don't know -- that's up to the president. He needs to decide how it should be composed. My view is that he needs to have independents involved because a growing plurality of Americans are independents like me, and that's why I say that we need nonpartisan and nonideological solutions that can achieve bipartisan support.
BF: One would think that you have an advantage, having been comptroller general of the United States and Public Trustee of Social Security and Medicare.
DW: I've also been to 46 states in the last four years doing town hall meetings with business community leaders, editorial boards, and local media (as I'm doing in Philadelphia today). I have a very good sense of what the American people want. The American people are in the sensible center -- they want results. The current system in Washington not only has partisan battles but also has a huge ideological divide that in effect represents a huge obstacle to achieving solutions. Therefore, we must employ alternative means and mechanisms to get the job done. I knew that the timing of my book would be good, but it turns out that it's great. What I've always tried to do in my job is to always look ahead. There are not enough people looking ahead, and that's why Washington tends to be a lag indicator. And Congress is a lag indicator within Washington. That's why we always tend to be in a crisis management atmosphere. Yet if you look at a lot of trends and challenges, you can anticipate problems, and that's what we need to be doing more of. We need to be taking steps to try to capitalize on the opportunities to mitigate the risk and avoid crisis.
BF: What is stopping us from looking ahead? How are the facts concerning the future being obscured?
DW: My view is that the system is dominated by career politicians and special interests and that the only way you are going to make the dramatic fundamental reforms that are necessary is by employing extraordinary processes that engage the American people with the facts, the truth, and the tough choices that bring pressure on Washington to act sooner rather than later and that will hold Washington accountable if it fails to act. This is what we are starting to see.
BF: Where, in your view, does healthcare reform now rank among the nation's priorities?
DW: There is no question that we need comprehensive healthcare reform. However, we need to focus first on reducing healthcare costs and the rate of increase in healthcare costs. In my view, it would have been better to start with a focus on Social Security because we could have gotten some points on the board and gained some confidence and credibility to attack much more challenging reforms, including healthcare and taxes.
BF: You remain steadfast in your plea for a healthcare budget?
DW: We're the only major industrialized nation that does not have a budget for what it will spend on healthcare. It's critical that we adopt one, or else healthcare could bankrupt the country. Individuals want unlimited healthcare as long as someone else is willing to pay for it. But we cannot afford to sustain our current system. Dramatic and fundamental reform will be necessary, but they will have to be accomplished over time and in installments.
BF: Some of the political reforms you advocate seem awfully ambitious -- such as putting an end to gerrymandering ...
DW: Well, there are several states, including Iowa and Arizona, that have already changed how they handle the redistricting process, and other states, including California, are considering related changes. It would not take an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to reform our redistricting process. The states could do it on their own. However, it could be accelerated with an amendment to the U.S. Constitution. We need to reform our immigration system and our education system, and enhance our competitive posture in an increasingly competitive global economy. We also have to pursue policies that promote fair trade in addition to free trade.
BF: What other factors are currently undermining our future when it comes to economic competitiveness?
DW: We have a number of challenges that we need to address more aggressively, one of which is that despite the fact that compared to other nations we spend double per person on K through 12 education, we have below-average outcomes. In addition, because so much of the federal budget is on autopilot and represented by mandatory spending, our ability to make critical investments in areas like basic research infrastructure and elsewhere, which will help to improve economic conditions and help our competitive posture, is being constrained.
BF: You have stated that you view America as facing not just a fiscal challenge, but a moral one ...
DW: Yes ... well, one of the things I talk about is looking at this from a young person's standpoint. On our present path, we are mortgaging the future of our children and grandchildren. We are reducing relevant investments in their future, which will be a time when they will face increasingly stiff competition in a global marketplace. I do believe that this is not just a fiscal issue but a moral issue as well. We don't do a very good job at math and science. We also don't do a very good job on financial literacy and civic responsibility, and we have an abysmally high dropout rate, especially for certain segments of the population.
BF: What are you speaking of when you say "financial literacy"?
DW: Regarding both civic responsibility and financial literacy, we do little or nothing in high school to help people understand how to manage their own finances before they leave to go out on their own. And second, we don't do enough in teaching civics and each American's personal responsibility as a citizen of this great nation.